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30 Carbine- The Little Cartridge That Could

By 08/30/2023October 5th, 2024Uncategorized
The controversial M1 carbine was an enlightened development when introduced. Just strong enough to do the job, it had far more effective range than open bolt submachine guns, was lighter than either SMGs or the M1 Garand, and carried a lot more ammunition for the same weight. It’s no surprise that it wound up on the shoulders of not just support personnel, but also Marine raiders and allied Asian troops. The carbine itself was less controversial than its cartridge, maligned frequently but used even more frequently.
Compared to its Combloc counterpart, 7.62x25mm Tokarev, the M1 carbine bullet was about 30% faster and 30% heavier. Relative to American submachine guns, M1 won all-around. A complete 30 carbine cartridge weighs 195 grains, just under 2.8 pounds per 100. 45ACP was heavier at 3.3 pounds, and limited to a far shorter effective range. There’s a reason why the issue of carbines continued through the Vietnam war, while M3A1 Grease Gun was relegated to tank crews where length was the critical consideration. Thompson M1 with a 20-round box magazine was twice the weight of the slim carbine. For all the complaints about 30 carbine under-penetrating, I don’t recall its bullets being stopped by packed wet snow or a medium watermelon, both of which captured 45ACP ball. In fact, carbine gel tests resulted in bullets punching through two 16 inch blocks set up end to end, and escaping into the backstop. In the words of a Korean War vet: “I can’t tell you how effective 30 carbine was — everyone I shot with it promptly curled up and died, and were unavailable to comment.” Slightly less effective than 7.92×33 STG44 round, 30 carbine had the virtue of coming out of a a sub-6lb weapon (loaded) rather than an STG44, twice as heavy loaded. Low recoil and decent accuracy also lend M1 carbine to night operations with early infrared scopes.
In modern non-military defensive use, the standard 110-grain FMJ cartridge is a bit of a liability due to excessive penetration through walls or people. It’s great for range use, but expanding bullets make better use of the available kinetic energy. Of the many available defensive loads, only some can be recommended due to reliability concerns with the others. For example, a fairly effective Hornady Critical Defense load is too long to fit some M1 magazines without the red plastic tip catching on the front wall. Remington soft point bullets with exposed lead can drag on the magazine wall, again reducing feed reliability. All-copper Maker Bullet 110-grain hollow point used by Steinel is short enough to feed, and has a modestly sized opening to avoid snagging on the feed ramp. It matches FMJ ballistics closely, so that the same point of aim works with practice and defense rounds. Converting kinetic energy to projectile deformation and making a larger wound channel keeps the bullet from over penetrating. Since the greatest contributor to over penetration is missing the target outright, we recommend equipping your M1 carbine with a red dot sight on a railed hanguard, such as Ultimak.

While over 30 rifles and handguns have been designed around the 30 carbine cartridge, the original US M1 and M2 (to which most M1s have been updated) remain the most popular. In fact, the sheer number of surplused carbines led to a change in NFA rules in favor of the M1 owners. What a contrast to the current government policy! Across the Atlantic, Israel still issues M1 carbines to volunteer school guards to protect students on field trips. Today, with improved sights and ammunition, M1 carbines are more potent than ever. In private hands, they are far more likely to be used for short-range defense than as a battle rifle substitute at hundreds of yards, so the initial complaints about them being underpowered are hardly valid. As numerous deer harvested with them every year indicate, the platform is plenty sufficient to drop a large mammal in its tracks. Careful ammunition selection is key, same as with handguns.

M1 Carbine

15 rounds in the gun, 30 more in stock pouches

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  • Tim says:

    I have three M1 carbines. The very first gun I bought was a National Postal Meter M1 back in 1987 with one of my first Army Reserve drill pays. I still have it. I always found the comments about it’s lack of stopping power amusing. A 125gr .357 Magnum at 1440fps was always considered a preeminent stopping round with about 575 ft lbs of muzzle energy, and an M1 puts out a 110gr bullet at 1990fps for 976 ft lbs of muzzle energy! FMJ ammo and proper feeding ammunition were in fact the only thing holding it back so I’m definitely interested in seeing how this all copper HP does!

  • ktmjoe15 says:

    As an M1 Carbine owner (1944 Winchester) and the owner of a very nice collection of milsurp rifles and handguns. I can honestly say that the M1 Carbine (being probably the first PDW) is one of the handiest rifles there is. Mine stays by my bed ready to defend even after almost 80 years.

  • bogiestl says:

    A few years back, I almost bought one for $600 at the Knob Creek shoot… Almost. Sigh. I wish someone would make new ones, in some different calibers, such as 9mm.

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